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		<title>Comment on Parties in Same Business and Operating in the Same Geographical Area by John</title>
		<link>http://www.udrpcommentaries.com/parties-in-same-business-and-operating-in-the-same-geographical-area/#comment-2914</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoboken Publications, LLC v. Hoboken411.com, LLC., FA1111001414530 (Nat. Arb. Forum January 13, 2012).nn&quot;Complainantnhas contended, without contradiction from Respondent, that Complainant hasncontinuously circulated its print magazine, bearing its HMAG trademark,nthroughout the city of Hoboken for at least two years.u00a0 Moreover, during thensame period, as asserted by Complainant with no objection from Respondent,nComplainant reinforced recognition of that mark by use of an Internet versionnof the magazine carrying the same trademark.u00a0 Thus, the Panel believes thatnComplainantu2019s mark is widely recognized in the greater Hoboken area and that itnhas established common law rights in that mark, if only pertaining to saidngeographical area. &quot;Two Years??u00a0u00a0 One small geographical area???u00a0 You have got to be kidding me?u00a0 What am I missing here?u00a0 Possibly counsel for the respondent? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoboken Publications, LLC v. Hoboken411.com, LLC., FA1111001414530 (Nat. Arb. Forum January 13, 2012).nn&#8221;Complainantnhas contended, without contradiction from Respondent, that Complainant hasncontinuously circulated its print magazine, bearing its HMAG trademark,nthroughout the city of Hoboken for at least two years.u00a0 Moreover, during thensame period, as asserted by Complainant with no objection from Respondent,nComplainant reinforced recognition of that mark by use of an Internet versionnof the magazine carrying the same trademark.u00a0 Thus, the Panel believes thatnComplainantu2019s mark is widely recognized in the greater Hoboken area and that itnhas established common law rights in that mark, if only pertaining to saidngeographical area. &#8220;Two Years??u00a0u00a0 One small geographical area???u00a0 You have got to be kidding me?u00a0 What am I missing here?u00a0 Possibly counsel for the respondent?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Protection of Mark as One of a Family of Marks by Melissa A. Rosati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa A. Rosati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your example about the &quot;Mc&quot; in McDonald&#039;s. It demonstrates the importance of consistent branding over time. The &quot;Mc&quot; identification is so strong, it leads the consumer to one association. It seems to me this is similar to the association of tissue to Kleenex. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your example about the &#8220;Mc&#8221; in McDonald&#8217;s. It demonstrates the importance of consistent branding over time. The &#8220;Mc&#8221; identification is so strong, it leads the consumer to one association. It seems to me this is similar to the association of tissue to Kleenex.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Domain Names Registered Prior to Acquisition of Trademark by aacolman</title>
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		<dc:creator>aacolman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Gmlevine - Thank you for this article, it&#039;s helping make some things more clear.

My dilemma:

I am about to launch a company where our one work Domain is also the company name and will also be submitted for a trademark. However, our suffix is not .com as that is in use by another company in another market. Their company name is &#039;blank&#039; &#039;blank&#039; &#039;domain name word&#039; - that one word is our entire company.

Is there any other way we could acquire this domain?

Thank you for the advice in above post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Gmlevine &#8211; Thank you for this article, it&#8217;s helping make some things more clear.</p>
<p>My dilemma:</p>
<p>I am about to launch a company where our one work Domain is also the company name and will also be submitted for a trademark. However, our suffix is not .com as that is in use by another company in another market. Their company name is &#8216;blank&#8217; &#8216;blank&#8217; &#8216;domain name word&#8217; &#8211; that one word is our entire company.</p>
<p>Is there any other way we could acquire this domain?</p>
<p>Thank you for the advice in above post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Equal Protection for Unregistered Trademarks, Common Law and Civil Law by RSK</title>
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		<dc:creator>RSK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under U.S. law, proof of distinctiveness is a prerequisite for registration on the Principal Register only for terms that are merely descriptive, geographically descriptive or primarily merely surnames. Marks that are arbitrary or even suggestive do not have to be proven distinctive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under U.S. law, proof of distinctiveness is a prerequisite for registration on the Principal Register only for terms that are merely descriptive, geographically descriptive or primarily merely surnames. Marks that are arbitrary or even suggestive do not have to be proven distinctive.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Exploitative Intent: Key to Legitimacy and Good Faith by Eric Ramage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Ramage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 10:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, please accept my thanks for the commentaries which I find informative and useful, (especially when they set me on a train of thought as to how I might be able to distinguish the Panelist&#039;s reasoning in some future complaint that I might bring).  Which leads to  .  Having reviewed the web site to which this points, I think that, unless there are issues that did not come out in the decision, this appears to be one of those cases when one says to a client; This is not hurting your business, so leave it alone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, please accept my thanks for the commentaries which I find informative and useful, (especially when they set me on a train of thought as to how I might be able to distinguish the Panelist&#8217;s reasoning in some future complaint that I might bring).  Which leads to  .  Having reviewed the web site to which this points, I think that, unless there are issues that did not come out in the decision, this appears to be one of those cases when one says to a client; This is not hurting your business, so leave it alone!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Standards for Refiling Complaint by A Second Go-Around? Standards for Refiling UDRP Complaints (udrpcommentaries.com) &#171; The Domain Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Second Go-Around? Standards for Refiling UDRP Complaints (udrpcommentaries.com) &#171; The Domain Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] M. Levine of udrpcommentaries.com posted a great overview the other day on the standards governing whether a UDRP complaint can be refiled after an earlier [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Adding a Geographic Indicator to a Trademark Does Not Distinguish the Domain Name by adele pace</title>
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		<dc:creator>adele pace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 01:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are potentially benefiting Khal, but it is in English. It isn&#039;t targeting the native speaking country. It is targeting English speaking people. It may have a bit of a better reach into that country, but that isn&#039;t what is going on. When they introduced the Arabic cyrillic domain name extensions I was surprised by the percentage of non-arabic speaking people in UAE.

I wonder whether it would make any difference if he was using the same domain name to sell other competing products on the same website.

This is a bit off point but I don&#039;t know whether anyone has heard of the Ward Brodie case in Australia? Ward Brodie sold RESTORIA hair colouring and the UK division and the Australia division went it&#039;s separate ways. The Australian Restoria only had the rights to use the trademark in Australia. Two affiliate websites were sued by the UK division of Restoria in the Federal Court for use of the trademark RESTORIA on the internet. The name Restoria appeared on the page amongst a lot of other products the affiliates were selling and at the checkout, so the UK plaintiffs argued. They weren&#039;t of course arguing that the affiliates were using their domain name, but that they were using their trademark &#039;on the internet&#039; (equivalent to the Zippo argument - ie you are targeting users in the jurisdiction). There was ONE trap purchase conducted by the Plaintiff solicitors and they brought proceedings based on the one trap purchase. However there was no evidence submitted of ANY of the product having ever been sold in Australia, and it was widely available in Australia through brick and mortar establishments at a cheaper price. The Plaintiffs almost won. The defendants weren&#039;t even selling competing products (hair dye for grey hair for men). However much was made of the fact that they had &#039;Australia&#039; listed in the drop down box, and thus they argued they were &#039;targeting&#039; Australians by making the product available to Australians. There was a case in the US Cecil McBee where a jazz musician was trying to shut down a teenage girls&#039; clothing label called Cecil McBee. He won a long fought battle in Japan over the trademark, organised three trap purchases, and brought legal action in the US courts. He argued that the website was targeting US users.

The court rejected his argument, pointing to the fact that the website was written in Japanese and most US people would therefore not understand it. Well I don&#039;t know about the latter argument. I understand Japanese and I&#039;d imagine there would be some users.

I know it is a bit off point but I wonder how significant this kind of argument will be with the introduction of international domain names. Certainly if a foreign website was translated into the native language that could be said to fall within the Zippo targeting rules of reaching out to the jurisdiction.

There was also an argument about the legitimacy of evidence about trap purchases. Anyway I&#039;ve said enough. lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are potentially benefiting Khal, but it is in English. It isn&#8217;t targeting the native speaking country. It is targeting English speaking people. It may have a bit of a better reach into that country, but that isn&#8217;t what is going on. When they introduced the Arabic cyrillic domain name extensions I was surprised by the percentage of non-arabic speaking people in UAE.</p>
<p>I wonder whether it would make any difference if he was using the same domain name to sell other competing products on the same website.</p>
<p>This is a bit off point but I don&#8217;t know whether anyone has heard of the Ward Brodie case in Australia? Ward Brodie sold RESTORIA hair colouring and the UK division and the Australia division went it&#8217;s separate ways. The Australian Restoria only had the rights to use the trademark in Australia. Two affiliate websites were sued by the UK division of Restoria in the Federal Court for use of the trademark RESTORIA on the internet. The name Restoria appeared on the page amongst a lot of other products the affiliates were selling and at the checkout, so the UK plaintiffs argued. They weren&#8217;t of course arguing that the affiliates were using their domain name, but that they were using their trademark &#8216;on the internet&#8217; (equivalent to the Zippo argument &#8211; ie you are targeting users in the jurisdiction). There was ONE trap purchase conducted by the Plaintiff solicitors and they brought proceedings based on the one trap purchase. However there was no evidence submitted of ANY of the product having ever been sold in Australia, and it was widely available in Australia through brick and mortar establishments at a cheaper price. The Plaintiffs almost won. The defendants weren&#8217;t even selling competing products (hair dye for grey hair for men). However much was made of the fact that they had &#8216;Australia&#8217; listed in the drop down box, and thus they argued they were &#8216;targeting&#8217; Australians by making the product available to Australians. There was a case in the US Cecil McBee where a jazz musician was trying to shut down a teenage girls&#8217; clothing label called Cecil McBee. He won a long fought battle in Japan over the trademark, organised three trap purchases, and brought legal action in the US courts. He argued that the website was targeting US users.</p>
<p>The court rejected his argument, pointing to the fact that the website was written in Japanese and most US people would therefore not understand it. Well I don&#8217;t know about the latter argument. I understand Japanese and I&#8217;d imagine there would be some users.</p>
<p>I know it is a bit off point but I wonder how significant this kind of argument will be with the introduction of international domain names. Certainly if a foreign website was translated into the native language that could be said to fall within the Zippo targeting rules of reaching out to the jurisdiction.</p>
<p>There was also an argument about the legitimacy of evidence about trap purchases. Anyway I&#8217;ve said enough. lol</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adding a Geographic Indicator to a Trademark Does Not Distinguish the Domain Name by adele pace</title>
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		<dc:creator>adele pace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 01:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey gml,
I agree that domain name decisions don&#039;t tend to have much uniformity. When I was doing my Masters a domain name decision panellist told me that the NAF tended to be more &#039;free speech oriented&#039; than other panels. That kind of gave me a hint that maybe it is even more the case with domain name panellists than judges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey gml,<br />
I agree that domain name decisions don&#8217;t tend to have much uniformity. When I was doing my Masters a domain name decision panellist told me that the NAF tended to be more &#8216;free speech oriented&#8217; than other panels. That kind of gave me a hint that maybe it is even more the case with domain name panellists than judges.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adding a Geographic Indicator to a Trademark Does Not Distinguish the Domain Name by khal</title>
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		<dc:creator>khal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 13:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there is bad faith as claimed by Herbalife. How can this be bad faith when Herbalife is benefiting from sales generated by the website.
Respondent admitted selling genuine Herbalife products &amp; they are introducing Herbalife products to a new market that they have not ventured in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there is bad faith as claimed by Herbalife. How can this be bad faith when Herbalife is benefiting from sales generated by the website.<br />
Respondent admitted selling genuine Herbalife products &amp; they are introducing Herbalife products to a new market that they have not ventured in.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Innocent and Good Faith Registration by adele pace</title>
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		<dc:creator>adele pace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great summary of and analysis of the &quot;vice at which the policy is directed at&quot; and the bad faith requirement 4(a)(iii).</description>
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